Warhammer Fantasy Battle Reporter

Hey guys, there's a question that's been bothering me recently since I started playing my friend's new Wood Elf army.

In a 'pitched battle' scenario, A wood elf army is allowed to place 1 extra 'wooded' piece of terrain as long as it is 6" in diameter.

I believe it also has to be placed in your own deployment zone.

Now here's my question: Does this last piece of scenery have to adhere to the rules for the other placed scenery in that it cant be within 12" of the middle of the table?

As all I mainly play is pitched battle, my opponent will place his last tree in as much of the center of board as possible. Basically it's in the center of the board about a quarter inch out of my 'depoloyment zone'

And that is another question. What Exactly determines a 'deployement' zone? What we've always done when it's time to place this last wood is cut the board in half lengthwise (from left to right) and anything on his 'half' is his 'depoloyment zone' and thus he can put the tree there.

Very confusing, I know. And I apologize. Hopefully you guys get the gist. Any help would be appreciated.

First of all, I do not remember anything said about scenery not allowed to be placed in the centre - why not? It just adds to strategical placement issues, I'd say!

Second: in a Pitched Battle, each player has a deploymentzone of 12 inch deep, along the entire length of the table. This is considering you are using a table of 48 inch (3 feet) width. The rule of thumb: there should be 24 inch between each players' deploymentzone. So if your table is deeper or less deep, that means your deploymentzone will be bigger or lesser accordingly.

So, concluding: on a standard 3x6 ft. table, your opponent must place his wood fully within an area of max. 12 inch deep measured from his side of the table, along that entire edge.

But: if you have read the rulebook, you would know this!

On page 2. of the rulebook it states: "The player chooses one piece of terrain and places it anywhere on the table, but more than 12" away from the centre of the table"

This is further elaborated in WD #329, June 2007. An issue very valuable in that it talks about the new scenery rules and tactics. On page 29 it also states, under CENTER OF THE FIELD: "When playing a standard game of Warhammer, no terrain can be placed within 12" of the center of the board.

I don't have the WE rulebook in front of me so I would like to know if the extra wood has to be placed 12" away from the center also. I don't think it says it does specifically but I got to thinking that maybe that's because they automatically assume players will place with with the same rules as the other terrain.

I Agree with the deployment part, but my friend does not (even with a diagram). Hence why I'm asking it on here. This is THE place to ask questions, btw. In fact, I've never seen a question on here answered with attitude before *shrugs*

Oh and standard is not 3'. That equals 36" not 48"
Is there anyone OUTSIDE of High School who can help me with this one?
Maybe someone who actually plays WE's? Or at least plays against them regularly.

*Edit* And I apologize to all who had to read my snarky response. It's been a rough few months and this is the only forum I found so far where people treat each other in a mature and respectable way. I.E. NOT demeaning them or putting them down for not reading that crzy rulebook(Which I have, more than a few times)....and I swear the rules almost get crazier and crazier with each passing read lol

i dont have a WE codex, but if the woods has to be placed in his deployment zone which is due to the basic rules for deployment, 12" from his table edge and the board is 48" long, then the center of the board is 24" from his table edge, so there is no way possible to get with in 12" of the center if you deploy in deployment zone.

now on the other hand if he doesnt have to place it in his deployment, then it is just one extra piece of terrian that is placed by the rules no closer than 12" from the center.

Dude, please do NOT put me down like this. One: I have been out of high school about ...oh...twenty years now. It's just that I am from Eurpoe, where we use the METRIC system, and so I am not extremely familiar with the inch/foot thingy. Understandable mistake, no? Two: Like I said: I said I did not RECALL anything being said about that centre discussion, but did not MEAN that it is not true. Thank you for enlightening me (although harshly). Three: EXCUSE ME for having table dimensions wrong - I was recalling from (clearly defaulting) memory and not with the book at hand here at work. And the metric system thing. But I guess you did get my point on deployment zones and placements. Four: I have had Wood Elves, and still have the army book, so don't think I don't know ANYTHING Woodie. FIVE: I DID NOT MEAN TO HAVE AN ATTITUDE!

And finally, to give a clear answer to your dilemma: the player's wood can be placed ANYWHERE in his deployment zone. YES, that means that it cannot be within 12 inch from the centre, as it will still be 12 inch away from that (and also 12 inch away from YOUR deployment zone - how did he get so close to yours anyway?) YES, that means that if scenario rules require another deployment zone, he can STILL place it ANYWHERE in his deployment zone, explained by the rule: Army Book supercedes Basic Rule Book! "Anywhere" supercedes "not within 12 inch of the centre".

So, both of us clear of any attitude problems? I am sorry to have made you feel this way, as I did not intend to, and you have by right showed me that I had mistaken you for someone less experience or well read into the rules. My apologies!

Dims, I apologize for being rude. It was a bad day and what got me mad was when you said, "But: if you have read the rulebook, you would know this!" I took this as an insult to my intelligence. But I have no quarrels with you and thank you for your most recent post.

Again, you have my apologizes for being rude.

I just talked to my friend and he says the WE codex states that the extra tree he gets can be placed ANYWHERE as long as it is NOT in MY deployment zone (sorry I don't have the actual quote). Either that or that it can be on his "half of the board" (I don't remember the conversation in fine detail).

So that explains how he can put it in the center of the board.

Of course, now I am confused again Dims because you said, "And finally, to give a clear answer to your dilemma: the player's wood can be placed ANYWHERE in his deployment zone. YES, that means that it cannot be within 12 inch from the centre" This is what I feel the rule SHOULD be but I don't think it is, at least that's not how my friend does it.

I do agree with you when you say "Army Book supercedes Basic Rule Book!" I think there may be a few examples against this when picturing ALL of the rules out ther for this game, lol. But I don't any personally.

So, thanks for you informaiton and help Dimms. I hope there are no hard feelings....Tho now I'm even more confused as to whether that stupid tree can be put in the center of the board. Normally, I would'nt care but my friend made 4 trees after he got his WE army and they seem to just ruin all of my tactics and greatly slow the game down.

Apologies accepted, and seriously no hard feelings. Something with water and a bridge

And I have to come back on my previous answer. I have looked everything thouroughly up, and found out that that wood can be placed "anywhere on your half of the table". So that is 24 inch out! And since the "anywhere" rules the BRB out, it can also be placed in the centre (or withing 12 inch).

And that should be my final answer! LOL

cool. Thank you dims for taking the time. It seems my friend is right and that is how we've been playing. I had forgotten that the codex overrides the rulebook. I was hoping they had made a mistake when they wrote the WE codex, bit it appears they didn't, lol

So, thanks again....now I just have to find a decent strategy to work around that.......

well done both of you, nicely resolved.

and dims, thanks for keeping an eye on the questions and answers thread.

And with these kind words I'll close this thread!