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Just got this confirmed from reliable inside source at GW HQ:

The Skaven DOOMWHEEL will return!

Start screaming, man-things!

sounds like good news for the ratties

What did it used to do ? Did you contact give you any idea what it will do in the new army list ?

I remember the model vidily (it was great actually), I just never played the old skaven and don't have the old army book

It used to great and devastating (for either side ) ...or completely useless. But that goes for much in the Skaven army, LOL

It used to move 2D6", and if starting on a hill it would go 3D6". During movement you could opt to release 3 bolts of lightning, each targeting a unit within a RADIUS of a ??? inch (forgot), at strength determined by scatter die. But: it targets ANY unit in that radius, so your own units were not totally safe either. In case of multiple units, it would target the unit with the BEST armour save.
In CC it did impact hits, would not generate lightning anymore, but it's propulsion - rats! - would be able to attack along. It had the potential of tying up any unit for extensive time!

I have no idea of the changes it will bring in the new model, and I am more interested in what the new model will look like. Although I still have the old model, I will DEFINATELY get the new one - not something I have done with every new Skaven model in last releases (still don't have the plastic Rat Ogres, or the newer Bell, still use the older metal ones!)

It sounds like my idea of fun. I enjoy the random element in the game, it's not always wise if you're fighting a game your desperate to win but units like this are what the game is all about in my opinion... fun

I heard this from two different sources as well, so I would say that it must be accurate since that makes three different sources.

With the release of the Lizzies book, rumours around the release of the new Skaven book are starting to fire up. At Warseer you can follow an extensive post on the latest rumours, but after a quick look, here are the best rumours:

- Warhammer Armies: Skaven is the next Armybook released for Warhammer Fantasy.
- It is released sometime in the latter half of 2009, after July.
Assigned to Jeremy Vetock
- New plastic kits include the Stormvermin, Clanrats, and Doomwheel.
- Return of the Verminlord
- Strength 4 Warplightning
- Skaven will get +2 combat resolution for outnumbering for strenghting the Horde aspect of the army.
- Plague Priests will be able to become wizards without the bobunic book and will be able to ride a couldron of poxes pushed by clanrats the same way as screaming bells. It should apparently have powers like the Lizardman EoTG/other armies altar thingies granting buffs/debuffs. Might be more random and wacky though.
- Apparently, a plastic screaming bell/cauldron box is coming out. Screaming bell should apparently look more like the 5th ed model with the seer standing in front of the bell on a wheeled cart-thingy in stead of the current tower setup.

There's a new pretty much confirmed rumour in the Skaven spell list:

The 13th (!!!) spell is "Curse of the Horned One":
Cast on 25+ (!!!): target unit gets 3D6 hits, no armour save. Every model died becomes a Clanrat in CC with said unit.

OMG!!! How cool (and unprobable to be able to cast succesfully) is that?
My advice: when you generate this spell, only try it on 3D6, and try for an IF. This way you won't have to worry about an increased chance to miscast, wasting dice versus your opponents dispel scroll, and you will have dice left for other magic.

3d6 is a max of 18 though and 4d6 is max of 24. Statistically to reliably get that spell off you'd need 8 dice... (or 7.14 actually) and a level 4 wizard can only roll a max of 5 anyway.

First: remember that Skaven only IF on a total of 13!

- When rolling 5+ dice, the chance for miscast is very, VERY high (33%), while the chance for IF is extremely low (0,04%), and the chance of hitting 25+ is low too (0,03% excluding the IF); plus the added negative effet that you will expend all (or most of) your dice, leaving you little magic left. So results will be: 33% at miscast, 0,04% at IF, 0,03% at succes but chance to be dispelled, and 66% at harmless failur.
- When rolling 3 dice, the chance at IF (13) is almost 8,3%, while miscast is low (0,23%). So there's 8,3% chance you succeed, 0,23% at miscast, or 90% at harmless failure but still able to cast other spells.

So 9% succes at 3 dice versus 0,07% at 5 dice...it's decisive!

BTW: By using Powerstones and/or Warpstone tokens a grey seer can use far more than 5 dice!!!

PS: Don't bust me if my calculation's a bit off, done this during work time by hand, and that's just NOT EASY! But it should be somewhere near that! Please, if someone is convinced of the REAL numbers, post them here! My conclusion will still be true!

rumor is that Skaven IF will be changed to follow all other armies IF of 2 sixes.

Now that would be cr@p..

ummm... what does IF stand for?

Irresistible Force

How would that be cr@p? Better chance of IF = good news, if you ask me. But, then again, I don't play Skaven.

Weighted dice Powner.